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Wyre Ramblers

are a friendly, long established rambling group based on the North Fylde area of Lancashire. Membership of the club is mostly derived from the local towns of Fleetwood, Thornton, Cleveleys and Poulton-le-Fylde.
Coach trips are made fortnightly all year round. In a typical year we visit Lancashire, The Eden Valley, Forest of Bowland, Lake District, Yorkshire Dales, Howgill Fells, Peak District, North Yorkshire, Scotland and Wales.
A variety of walks are usually available, each led by an experienced leader. These will usually cover distances from about 6 miles to 15 miles, depending on conditions, locality and time of year.

Coach Booking

To book on a trip, from the Monday before at 8am onwards, sign in with your membership number and password, then click on the Booking Button next to the trip name in the 2022 Itinerary.
If you have forgotten your password or membership number, or don't know them because you are new member, use the password reset function by clicking on the Forgot Password? button. If the password reset does not work for you, contact John Adams, he can tell you your current stored sign in name, membership number and email address. Sometimes people use slightly different versions of their name, or change email addresses, John can update these if the need arises. Your membership number is fixed and will not change. John cannot tell you your password, the website only stores an attack resistant, one way encrypted (hashed) version of your password.

Last updated 2nd July 2022
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Walking With Wyre Ramblers

If you would like to come along with Wyre Ramblers on one of the walks listed below please phone John Adams on the
Club Mobile: 0790 800 4399 (6.00 p.m - 9.00 p.m)
Should you reach an answerphone or message taking service when phoning then please leave your name and telephone number and state that your interest is in Wyre Ramblers.

John will get back in touch with you as soon as possible.

We allow non members to accompany us for 4 outings, after which we then expect them to become members of the Wyre Ramblers Club.
The 4 outings can be taken at any time throughout the year.
Membership: £10 per calendar year.



Booking a Seat

Fares (irrespective of distance) are currently:
Adults: £12
Children (under 16): £6
All children MUST be accompanied by an adult.

Seats may be be booked for the next outing. Fares will be collected on the way home. Any seats that are booked and not occupied must be paid for at the earliest opportunity unless cancelled by 8pm on the Thursday before the trip.

Telephone bookings may be made on the
Club Mobile: 0790 800 4399 (6.00 p.m - 9.00 p.m)
Please show consideration and do not phone outside the specified times shown.

Booking by email



Coach Pick Up and Drop Off Points

(with nominal departure times)
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07:30 BLACKPOOL Whitegate Drive between Hornby Rd & Leeds Rd
(By prior arrangement only, text or email on or before the Wednesday preceding the walk)
07:40 BISPHAM  Devonshire Road Roudabout (opposite garage)
07:50 FLEETWOOD (A)Broadway (Hesketh House)
07:55 FLEETWOOD (B)Broadway Post Office (St. Nicholas's Church)
07:57 FLEETWOOD (C)Poulton Road (Barney's Bingo Hall)
08:00 FLEETWOOD (D)The Esplanade, site of former Fleetwood Pier
08:05 FLEETWOOD (E)ASDA
08:15 THORNTON  Victoria Road East, (Shopping Precinct)
08:20 POULTON  River Wyre Hotel (Mains Lane)
08:40 GARSTANG  A6 in front of the Great Season Restaurant (by prior arrangement, if the route passes this point)

In the summer we set off home at 18.00 hrs

In winter we return roughly 15 to 20 minutes after the sunset time when it falls earlier than 18.00 hrs




Safety Notes

General

Strong waterproof boots and waterproof clothing are essential. Remember, it is usually much much colder on the tops, winter or summer, than at lower levels.

However good the weather may appear, bring a complete change of clothing to leave on the coach. Bring food for the day and try to include something hot in a flask; soup, coffee or tea for example.

Map, compass, torch, whistle and first aid kit are carried by group leaders, and are advised for individuals within each group.

Each party wil appoint a leader and a back marker to avoid being split up, other members of the party should neither overtake or fall behind,

International Distress Signal

If you get into difficulties, the International Distress Signal is six whistle blasts in quick succession followed by a one minute pause. The acknowledgement is three whistle blasts in quick succession followed by a one minute pause. In each instance repeat until answered.

Personal Responsibilty

In these days of litigation it is important you know that every time you (and each member of your group) join in an organised walk you do so at your own risk as part of an autonomous group, in which each member of that group has a duty of care to each other.

You are responsible for your own safety.

This is no different from the reponsibilties which you have on a casually arranged walk with friends or family.

A Walk for 3rd July 2022

SNOWDONIA

Leader John Adams

Distance 7.5 miles / 12 km

Ascent (total) 3,680ft / 1124m

Time 6 to 7 hours

Sunset Time 21:44

Maps OL17 Snowdon / Yr Wyddfa

Start Grid Ref SH 647555

Hello everyone,
I've been hanging on watching the forecasts daily with fingers crossed! In prospect tomorrow (at present) the weather is showing fog until after 1pm with wind (WNW) up to 16mph, with luck it may lift before we summit? If the conditions are unfavourable (we'll check at Pen y pas) we'll default to the Pyg track. Once we reach the summit we'll decide if there is sufficient time to complete the rest of the planned route.
The Snowdon Horseshoe is perhaps the greatest ridge walk in Snowdonia and for many the highlight is a traverse of Crib Goch's arrête.
The route begins at Pen-y-pass at the top the Llanberis Pass. Leave the car-park by the northern exit alongside the cafe and follow the Pyg Track as it climbs steadily to Bwlch y Moch. You soon get a superb view of Crib Goch probably with people already clambering up its east ridge.
At Bwlch y Moch we leave the Pyg Track and take the path that forks right. The first section of path from Bwlch y Moch has been paved but only until you reach steeper ground. The slope becomes rockier and the path twists and turns with the occasional short sections of scrambling.
The obvious route may appear too difficult but with care you can select an easier route on all sections of this walk. The most difficult scrambling is roughly two-thirds of the way to the top.
Once this has been overcome the remainder of the climb is relatively easy and you soon find yourself perched on the rocks at the eastern end of the ridge. Your selected route along the ridge depends on your nerve. There is a feeling of exposure especially to your right although this can be avoided by taking a lower line to your left. The best route in good weather is along the crest and providing you take care you will soon arrive at the highest point.
From here the ridge descends to the pinnacles. The best route is to the left following a lower well worn route marked with cairns. Bwlch Coch is reached with Crib Goch completely conquered. Ahead lies an interesting, but easier, traverse of Crib y Ddysgl. Of similar character to Crib Goch there is one section of scrambling that might cause problems if you don't discover the easy route. Otherwise it is straightforward with superb views all the way to the summit of Garnedd Ugain.
Only 20 metres shorter than Snowdon this mountain deserves better acclaim as many people completely ignore it on their way to Snowdon. Descend from Garnedd Ugain in a south-westerly direction to reach the railway. Follow this, and the crowds, to Snowdon's Summit.
Leaving the crowds in our wake we descend ‘very steeply’ (1100ft/337m) via a very rough path to the low point before following the path up and over the twin summits of Llewidd, passing the Watkin path on route.
The route is easy to discern as we eventually work our way back down to the lake shore and join the miners track, this track leads us back to Pen-y-pass.
On this walk today you will need a head for heights and require some scrambling skills. ‘This is not a route for the inexperienced’ Grade - very hard
As expected we have a low turnout for various reasons, Snowdon is a long journey and isn't popular as a result! Note, the cafe is not open at Pen y pas, toilets only available. Please bring sufficient food and liquids with you, as you won't be able to buy any whilst there!
See you tomorrow.
Regards,
John

Alternative A Walk for 3rd July 2022

SNOWDONIA

Leader Les Holt

Distance 10 miles / 16 km

Ascent (total) 2,896ft / 883m

Time 6½ hours

Sunset Time 21:44

Maps OL17 Snowdon / Yr Wyddfa

Start Grid Ref SH721582

Hello everyone,
Les kindly sent me this walk route he has planned for the coming Snowdon trip. A most interesting variant for the day. Those of you who are joining us this Sunday, a gentle reminder (not that you need it) that we have a single pickup. at 'Four Lane Ends' Thornton, that's opposite the war memorial on Fleetwood Sth. at 08:00. Car parking is available behind the 'Little theatre' and Library, plus the council offices car park opposite the car saleroom Fleetwood Sth.
See you then.
Regards
John
Snowdonia has so much more to offer than Snowdon itself, and Les has decided to forego the “The Crowded Mountain” and has opted for a close neighbour instead.
Starting from the village of Capel Curig, our walk gains height almost immediately as we begin our trek towards the Glyders – pronounced glid, as in lid – encountering the summit of Y Foel Goch first [2641ft / 805m] before continuing on to Glydfer Fach [3261ft / 994m], complete with the ‘Cantilever rock’ [marked as Y Gwyliwr on OS maps] and finally Glyder Fawr [at 3277ft / 999m] our high point for the day.
Retracing our steps back to Glyder Fach brings us to a path [the Miner’s track] that we passed earlier and upon reaching it we turn due south to head steeply downhill to arrive at the A4086 road just north of the Pen-y-Gwryd Hotel where, if time allows, Les may decide to allow you all a bit of liquid refreshment.
All that is left is a final uphill stretch to meet our other groups and the coach at the Pen-y-pass car park.
Snowdonia Route



2022 Itinerary

Members may book on a trip from the Monday before at 9am onwards when the Now Booking message is displayed. Sign in with your membership number and password using the Sign In button at the top of ths site , then click on the Book On button that appears in this panel by the trip name. Members must be signed in to see the Book On button.
Booking now opens at 8am on the Monday before the trip. The list of trips below is provisional and may be subject to change.

Cancellations

Any seats that are booked and not occupied must be paid for at the earliest opportunity unless cancelled by 8pm on the Thursday before the trip.
#DateDestinationSunset
12nd JanuaryGRANGE OVER SANDS16:01
216th JanuaryARNSIDE16:22
330th JanuaryKESWICK via M616:48
413th FebruaryMALHAM17:16
527th FebruaryGRASMERE17:43
613th MarchHAWORTH18:10
727th MarchCONISTON via Torver19:36
810th AprilDUFTON20:02
924th AprilCALDBECK20:28
108th MayILKLEY via Otley20:53
1122nd MayGLENRIDDING via Kirkstone Pass21:16
125th JuneEDALE21:35
1319th JuneLANGDALES21:44
143rd JulySNOWDON21:43
1517th JulyBORROWDALE21:31
1631st JulyGRASSINGTON21:10
1714th AugustBUTTERMERE20:55
1828th AugustMIDDLETON IN TEESDALE20:11
1911th SeptemberBRAITHWAITE19:37
2025th SeptemberLLANDUDNO19:02
219th OctoberBROUGHTON IN FURNESS18:28
2223rd OctoberMARSDEN17:56
236th NovemberSTAVELEY via Troutbeck16:28
2420th NovemberRAMSBOTTOM16:06
254th DecemberAMBLESIDE15:52
2618th DecemberKIRKBY LONSDALE via Caton15:50

*Single pickup at 08:00 at Four Lane Ends, Thornton
Hi all, quite a mixed bag for you all to ponder over. No news from John just as yet although we all know that he’ll be taking those daring types up and over Crib Goch, unless the weather – which is looking decent(ish) – changes for the weekend. As for the rest, Les has an interesting alternative A walkl and there are two possible ‘B’ walks, one that reaches the summit, and one that doesn’t. I could say you are getting spoilt for choice, but I’d rather say the more choices the better. See what you think. I won’t be with you this weekend but I wish you all a great day.

B WALK for 3rd July 2022

SNOWDON

Leader Beverely Pritchard

Distance 7½ miles / 12¼ km

Ascent(total) 2,510ft / 765m

Time 6½ hours

Sunset Time 21:32

Map OL17 Snowdon / Yr Wyddfa

Start Grid Ref SH647556


Having enjoyed your day out with Bev 6 weeks ago in the Lake District, she’s a glutton for punishment and is back for more, although after reccying this walk with Noelle a couple of weeks ago, she had some slight reservations (see notes at the foot of this description). Todays walk is a bit longer than the one done last time (which was enjoyable but a toughie by ‘B’ group standards) and this one is even more strenuous so please be honest with yourselves and decide whether to undertake this walk or to do the still challenging, but less time consuming, option that Janet has been asked to oversee which climbs ¾ of the way to the summit, but does not reach it. Whatever you choose to do, have a great day in this spectacular place.
Our walk begins from the car park at Pen-y-pass from where we’ll follow the Pyg track which climbs steadily, and occasionally very steeply, and never really stops ascending until the summit is reached. At the point where the Miners track (which will be our return route) joins the Pyg track, we still have another 970ft to climb to reach the summit and we are looking at a minimum of 2½ hours to return to this spot. Can we do it?....of course we can. That said, this is where the steepness increases as we zig-zag up to a large stone marker to join the ‘tourist path’ (ha ha) that comes up from Llanberis, loosely following the Snowdon Mountain Railway for the final 300ft pull up to the summit. Having got here, the really difficult – and time consuming - bit can be reaching the cairn that marks the summit owing to the sheer number of people wishing to do the same. Our return follows the same route that we used to reach the summit until we meet where the Miners track joins the Pyg Track and here we will deviate by following the Miners track which descends very steeply for about 500ft down towards the lake (Glaslyn). From here the gradient eases greatly as we continue downhill, walking around the northern shore of Llyn Llydaw, crossing it via a causeway, leaving us with a final 1½ miles back to the car park and café (sorry there’s no pub !) at Pen-y-pass.
Here’s where your honesty comes in. Hopefully you’ll have noted that I’ve stated a time to complete the walk as being 6½ hours which is based on us arriving and starting our walk by 11am, with 5:30pm being our proposed departure time. When Bev and Noelle did their reconnoitre, it took them 7¼ hours, and that didn’t include a stop for lunch. They weren’t moving overly slowly, but they were impacted by constant hold ups due to the amount of people they encountered, particularly on those sections where a bit of scrambling is required (and there are a few of those), all of which added time to their walk. Also, as stated in the main body of my description, reaching the summit usually involves a wait (due to the numbers wishing to get there) and can involve upwards of 20 or 30 minutes ‘hanging around’ just to say “I did it”.
On the Tuesday when they undertook their walk the weather was very nice and this possibly made for more people than usual being on the hill and on that route although, weekends tend to be even busier and this is why Bev has some reservations about whether this route can be completed in time or not, and why the question is being asked as to whether you (individually) should look at your ability and speed and think, maybe I’ll be happy to do the shorter route that doesn’t reach the summit. The alternative option would enable a second (slower travelling) group to travel most of the same route but at a pace which may prove suitable for a number of you. Your turn back and ‘head for home’ spot would be where the Pyg track meets the Miners track. This will reduce the overall walk length by just under 2 miles and saves you a further 970ft of steep climbing, having already climbed over 1500ft to this point and, more importantly, it will save in the region of 2 to 2½ hours of time, a commodity that is very much at a premium on this walk.
The return route would see you utilise the Miners track as that is a more pleasant option than returning via the outward route, once you’ve negotiated the short but very steep descent down to the lovely Glaslyn (Blue lake) that is. Finally, apologies if some of what I’ve said has come across as me treating you all like schoolkids because, that was not my intention, however, I’d hate for a difficult day to put Bev off leading again – god forbid, because she’s very good at it – and, based on our last trip to Snowdon when yours faithfully opted to do a different (supposedly easy) route – take it from me, there isn’t an easy way to Snowdon’s summit – which proved to be a horrendous error, so much so that one of our walkers that day was so upset and has never walked with us since, so I’m very aware that a difficult day can impact on the leader very much.
Enjoy your day, whatever option you choose to do.

Alternative ‘B’ WALK for 3rd July 2022

SNOWDON

Leader Janet Formstone

Distance 6 miles / 10¼ km

Ascent(total) 1,479ft / 451m

Time 6½ hours

Sunset Time 21:32

Map OL17 Snowdon / Yr Wyddfa

Start Grid Ref SH647556


SNOWDON….it’s a big hill and it’s a long way away, leading to our trips there being governed by the amount of hours available, and that is driving hours rather than daylight hours and so, because of that, we have an alternative ‘B’ walk that is looking to move at a more leisurely pace than that required by the standard ‘B’ walk. That walk is hoping to move at a speed that will enable its members to reach Snowdon’s summit in sufficient time to allow them to return on time for us to leave at the required time. Because of that we’ve decided to give a further option, making this walk the ‘B’ walk whilst the ‘speed merchants’ enjoy a ‘B+’ walk. Just to confirm, this alternative will not make the summit, and it will make for an easier day, although that’s easier rather than easy because it will still have an element of strenuousness about it.
Our walk begins from the car park at Pen-y-pass from where we’ll follow the Pyg track which climbs steadily, and occasionally very steeply, and never really stops ascending until we reach what will be our turn around point.
Reaching the spot where the Miners track meets the Pyg track is where we turn for home and, rather than retracing the route we’ve taken to reach here, instead we will use the Miners track to return to Pen-y-pass.
This will involve a steep descent initially down to the lovely lake – Glaslyn (which translates as Blue Lake) – our first objective. Once we’re down at the lakeside, the Miners track continues inexorably downhill but at a far less severe gradient.
The path takes us past, and across via a causeway, the reservoir of Llyn Llydaw and a further smaller Lake (Llyn Teyrn) before depositing us back at the Pen-y-pass car park. There is a small café but sadly no pub.